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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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1933
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Posted - 2016.09.17 05:08:21 -
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The CEP corporations never signed the Federal charter.
The CEP was a rogue criminal organization.
How can an organization that was never party to laws or treaties, break them.
[Cognitive Dissonance Intensifies]
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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1960
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Posted - 2016.09.24 02:56:30 -
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As a former corporate lawyer, I've got a lot of local ordinances that can be purchased in case you folks happen to run out of your own. I even have some really obscure Amarrian theological ones, but those are extra.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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1960
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Posted - 2016.09.24 03:49:39 -
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Two parts cognac, one part sweet vermouth, shaken with an egg yolk and a teaspoon of powdered sugar. Serve into a cocktail glass with a zest of lemon and some mint leaves.
The perfect Khumaak to break your skull with.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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1960
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Posted - 2016.09.24 07:26:21 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Well that's a new one, don't get me wrong I can't wait to try it. Thanks!
Although I will say drinking a Khumaak is more for the morning after you went drinking, find a dead body in your hotel bathroom, and need to try and remember just exactly what you did last night while the forensic cleaning crew you called is on the way so you don't have to explain to the front desk something you have no recollection of.
(That was a joke).
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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1965
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Posted - 2016.09.25 10:19:20 -
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Minmatar projectile turrets use gunpowder? That's news to me. The one's I've usually used are based on an electrothermal plasma ignition of a deuterium main charge. They're not exactly anachronistic in that regard.
And the armour hull plates are crystalline carbon not too dissimilar to Gallente plating, except with ferrofluid inserts which especially on tech 2 variations creates high degrees of EM dispersion. Not the stuff you'd use without an advanced technology base.
Minmatar ships are designed around the principles of ease of re-supply and repair in the field and they are built for rugged simplicity in the conduct of asymmetric operations. That doesn't make them less capable, just focused on different design goals.
I do feel sorry for any Amarrian commander that has the misfortune of having to face a full Republic Svipul flotilla though:
"But Sir! The lasers, they do nothing!" Said the gunnery crew to the combat bridge. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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1969
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Posted - 2016.09.26 07:33:21 -
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Hey, I was just trying to support Shutaq's initial argument. Because if you're going to be angry by the threat the Republic poses to the Empire and thus by extension one's own family then that threat has to be real and present. It would present a contradiction if Republic ships (And thus the main threat to the Empire) were inferior gunpowder using, thermonuclear death traps held together with duct-tape -- because if the inferiority was real then rightfully what is there to be worried about in the Empire?
So I decided to be helpful and point out that actually, yes, Minmatar ships can and do pose some threat to the Empire and thus confirm the man does have something to be angry about.
I can be nice like that sometimes. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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1979
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Posted - 2016.10.01 01:42:11 -
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Matar Ronin wrote: pilot Kim was not smart enough to recognize that she was painting herself into a corner and it was just a matter of time until someone caught her there.
I just hope you realize that isn't some sort of new phenomenon? Look, here I'll outline Diana Kim in four easy and simple steps:
1. Be bullying and insulting on IGS: Diana Kim will say something insulting about a particular person or ethnic group. Usually done in all caps about how they all need to die and be destroyed.
2. IGS drama ensues: Controversy is caused.
3. Their behaviour backfires: Diana Kim is eventually roasted by quite literally anyone with a basic grasp of logic to point out just how idiotic anything they say is.
4. Plays the victim: She will then call people trolls, because while she wants to dish it out she really can not take it return due to her remarkably thin skin and that's the reason why she's so upset. Alternatively, call them liars while not actually pointing out what they are lying about.
This cycle has repeated itself so many times over the years that there is actually a, "And this is why x must be destroyed," Diana Kim IGS meme to be used as a shorthand for a response to something egregiously baka. Usually something Diana Kim herself wrote.
Now causing controversy is nothing new. Just look at literally any Galnet social media platform -- spouting invective to create controversy and drama is a great way to get views, subscribers and in the Federation it could even land you in the office of the President. However, where Diana Kim and certain Presidential potentates fail is that for all their outward bombast they remain laughably insecure and thin-skinned to the point they'll feel the need to respond to every single criticism and joke about them. Usually by externalizing: You're the trolls and liars, and my microphone broke, that's why no one could understand the points I was making.
However in Diana Kim's case, the bombast does not serve any actual or real platform -- political or otherwise. She is acting out much like the emotionally insecure girl that she is, who much like threatening to kill themselves in the bathroom, will do anything for that desired scrap of validation that attention gives them. She already knows her attention seeking behaviour has driven not just into a corner, but that she's dug herself into a hole so deep in that corner she's left to resorting to having her coterie of known associates such as Luna Hanaya or Mika Firestorm respond to her own posts when no one else will.
Oh, and to pre-empt any pointing out that I'm also no stranger to IGS controversy, drama, and allegations of being an insulting troll:
Veikitamo, we get it, you're really edgy. You kill people in space like any other capsuleer and don't try to rationalize it by engaging in pseudo-intellectual epistemology to soothe your conscience like it's some kind of anti-inflammatory for a raging hemorrhoid. Even those times you liquidated all those prisoners-of-war to be sold off as clone biomass, if they weren't transferred to Nation in a repatriation deal, because you couldn't be bothered to pay for the costs of their housing does not make you some kind of special snowflake given the mass slaughter conducted daily by your current interstellar political and socio-economic class.
Damn, why do you even keep on posting? Do you have some kind of sick fascination watching people fail to grasp your particular brand of sarcasm because they're so far down the deep end of the social maladaptive spectrum that they keep on taking what you say literally for your own perverted amusement? What is wrong with you, even mass murderers and those who profit from the current war economy have feelings that you can hurt with your words. You monster. You're a sixty-five year old grown woman, stop trying to dab with the cool kids.
This is why no one will you give you peer validation by liking your posts.
kys. Thanks.
Also: I'm gay.
Truly savage stuff.
In summary because this was in response to yourself, Mr. Ronin:
And this is why the slavery cultist Amarr Empire must be destroyed.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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2003
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Posted - 2016.10.17 20:07:07 -
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To be fair, probably about 80% of the time, speaking out against PY-RE was really speaking out against myself.
Which never made much sense to me, nor does it really matter much now -- I achieved all the objectives I was set three years ago, and the truth can be safely buried in all the hearsay others so generously provide. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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2003
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Posted - 2016.10.17 20:31:26 -
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Tyrel Toov wrote:Ffs, can we kill this thread already?
It is an amazing thread though. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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2046
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Posted - 2016.11.16 06:54:57 -
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Matar Ronin wrote: If only the Caldari had had qualified people answerable to the general public making those initial key decisions, how many lives would have been saved?
Corporate citizens are issued voting stocks based on position and length of service to the company. At quarterly or annual General Meetings they can vote on matters presented to them by the Executive Board. Dependent on corporate charter a measure presented that attracts significant, "No," vote usually set at 30% is considered as a, "Strike," against that Board. With three strikes against a board triggering a No Confidence leadership spill which dissolves the current Board and causes a shareholder election for a new Board.
A No Confidence motion against an Executive Board may also be put forward to vote by the owners of more than 30% of total shares to set in motion a general vote to dissolve a Board and re-elect a new one.
The most recent occurrence of such an act at a Megacorporate level was when the Executive Board of Kaalakiota placed the motion for a vote of No Confidence in Tibus Heth as CEO before the citizen-shareholders of Kaalakiota in YC 116 which was passed by the voting citizenry of Kaalakiota. [1]
Before implying political disenfranchisement in the State you might want to inform yourself on how corporate governance actually works among Caldari businesses, Mr. Ronin. |
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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2046
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Posted - 2016.11.16 11:50:52 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:So you can either kindly present documented proof of what percentage of the Caldari population owns voting stocks in all the megacorps or be honest and admit you have no real idea and are only guessing and saying what sounds nice albeit a possible total fantasy Pilot Gesakaarin. Until you can do that my question is valid and still stands unanswered, Quote:If only the Caldari had had qualified people answerable to the general public making those initial key decisions, how many lives would have been saved?
As an example, when Mens Reppola was voted into CEO of Ishukone he sought to:
"...call for the Ishukone board to encourage employee investment in the corporation, suggesting that they make two-thirds of the Ishukone shares in their hands (roughly 20% of the company's total shares) available for purchase by Ishukone employees. [1]
My point stands. Voting stocks are made available to corporate citizens, the manner in which they are made available varies between Megacorporations, and if citizens choose not to invest in their own company then by rights they should not have a say in choosing its direction.
Although I would say your mistake is in thinking that for the Caldari there exists a wildly held notion that political rights are inherent or universal -- they are not. They are earned in the State at an individual level through work and ability, if they wish involvement in corporate governance and affairs.
Besides, why should the general public as a whole ever have a say in favour of leaders who instead rise up through the ranks on their own merits?
The general public chose Tibus Heth five years ago, and he proved to be an idiot who almost bankrupted Kaalakiota because he had no experience or training in actually managing a company on the scale he was swept into. That's the kind of lunacy that occurs when populist mobs have power and not strong institutions -- forklift drivers become CEO's and nearly destroy a company that has existed for centuries.
So again, educate yourself you stooge.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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2049
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Posted - 2016.11.16 18:28:16 -
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Matar Ronin wrote: It seems you seek to argue that history is replete with Caldari State leadership making all the right choices because their system is perfect and as such can only produce perfect results. The monkey wrench of reality is that tibus heth rose to power via that Caldari System. There was no general election of all Caldari citizens that brought him to power. Thuggish power plays in the streets moved comfortably into Caldari boardrooms and tibus heth used the fundamental weakness of the Corp system to enact a violent hostile take over that cost countless lives and could have plunged the entire New Eden Cluster into open warfare.
I am not arguing anything Mr. Ronin, I am showing you what Caldari is.
The Caldari system of corporate governance makes all the right choices because it is a perfect system that produces perfect results for the Caldari people.
It can be explained, but it never has to be justified -- especially not to some black faced dirty trash of a Minmatar like yourself playing Gallentean liberal stooge.
Now I have already provided an explanation of corporate governance in the State and the nature of political enfranchisement as it exists through the investment of voting stock. As such you can either a) Take it or b) Leave it but your opinions will not change it. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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2049
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Posted - 2016.11.16 20:11:38 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: especially not to some black faced dirty trash of a Minmatar like yourself playing Gallentean liberal stooge. Was that really called for?
Yes.
If the man argues that Amarr opinions are irrelevant because of the racial non-sequitor of being slavery cultists then he should not complain if I point out his opinions on Caldari are irrelevant because he does in fact have a black face. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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2049
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Posted - 2016.11.17 01:35:28 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:... *sigh*
So, Mr. Ronin? I know you don't normally listen to me when I say such things, but Veiki Gesakaarin is maybe another one of those people you don't want to successfully annoy.
She might be looking for a hobby. Just saying.
(Also, her comments about the competence of a population to rule itself are actually widespread sentiment in the State, and I'm not sure there's a compelling counter-argument. Why would anyone expect a bunch of laborers and technicians to be suited to deciding, or even choosing leaders to decide, questions of macroeconomics and foreign policy? It's amazing to me that the Federation's worked as well as it has for as long as it has.) Pilot Gesakaarin has just proven she can't punch above her weight so if she is indeed looking for a hobby she would be well advised to try something she could actually do without getting battered so easily. She is essentially a lightweight with delusions of rhetorical effectiveness that could not survive engagement with even one initial concept. I rate kim higher then pilot Gesakaarin and it is well known how little i think of that cowardly tin soldier. But have faith I have no interest in continuing to slap around the intellectually incompetent who are clearly unable to bring anything of substance to the table beyond juvenile racist name calling. It's just too easy and boring.
Speaking of dearest Kin you read like you both graduated from the same alma mater of presenting laughable bravado as victory while continuing to post about how much you do not care your precious delicate skin was pierced by my touch.
After all in trying to convince people you do not care you in fact display you do. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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2055
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Posted - 2016.11.17 18:37:01 -
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In my experience the people who say they want to understand the Caldari only want to use such discussions to pass judgement on the State based on their own worldviews.
If it's not the Gallente and Minmatar trying to talk about how tragic it is all Caldari are "Oppressed" by the "Tyranny" of evil corporations then it's the Amarr talking about how Caldari are wayward and lost who all collectively need to abandon their culture and history to become like the Khanid in Imperial subservience.
After going through the same old rigamarole of outsiders trying to judge the State by their own ideals as they in turn patronise and insult in their ignorance then eventually the only response will be, at least for me: Go read a book and **** off. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
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2058
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Posted - 2016.11.18 09:06:18 -
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Kolodi Ramal wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:If you can't walk, you get left behind. Look, I know you came from a harsh planet and you like to pretend that everything that was true and necessary there is still true and necessary now. But it isn't. At this point if you leave someone behind it's because you're cruel and wasteful, not because you have to.
Actually if we leave someone behind it's usually because they are not worth keeping.
Because for a Caldari the guiding principle in life is that you are not born with inherent rights or privilege. Everything must be earned by your own hands in service and contribution to society as manifested in the corporation. Education, health care, housing, child care, are all made available to citizens who work for the company whether they are at the highest or lowest rungs of the corporate ladder.
When jobs are always available and through it social services are subsidized then quite frankly those who do not work have chosen to be left behind, and if so, they should be left there. Those who decide to contribute nothing, deserve nothing in return.
I think that less cruel and wasteful than throwing welfare money at people like they do in the Federation, but hey at least they are, "Free," To live a life of limited opportunities in some Omega or Delta city ghetto where any talents or potential they might have are squandered by a lack of available jobs; and if they do manage to get a job it's probably some minimum wage affair where they have to live the lives of indentured servitude to neoliberal economics so that smug leftists and liberal elitists can wax with a bleeding heart about how some foreign society is cruel and wasteful for leaving people behind as they post from the ivory tower of capsuleer privilege. |
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